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		<title>By: Philosophical mishmash &#171; vague notions about everything!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philosophical mishmash &#171; vague notions about everything!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Yesterday I posted about &#8220;judging&#8221; and some of it&#8217;s ramifications. Today I read in the Gates of Vienna the Baron has run into [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dr. Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...we condemn those people who are ill to death.&quot;

Excuse me? The last time I checked all humans die, and I haven&#039;t condemned anyone to death so where do you come up the we? Are you judging?

I believe, however, you are asking if we should intervene when intervention is possible regardless of personal choice. 

That is one of those pesky &quot;is&quot; &quot;ought&quot; questions that you so blithely glossed over in the post I mentioned. Paraphrased you said, &quot;who are we to judge?&quot; 

I&#039;m not an ethicist and your question about organ transplants is an ethical question. I&#039;m just a guy who tries to use his mind to the best of his ability. The AMA has committees upon committees who sit and AGREE upon those exact moral and ethical questions. Apparently they have decided that if I&#039;m dying and choose not to donate my organs that is to be my choice no matter what. And, as you said, (paraphrased) &quot;they don&#039;t have the right to tell me what is moral for me.&quot;

Moral issues are difficult, I will agree. But as I said their solutions are agreed upon in community and that comes about by making judgments. 

Ethical questions, the one about organ transplants in your comment, are more difficult. They are more difficult because they are generally limited in scope than are moral questions. However, not judging either category  reduces us all to the lowest common denominator. 

Not judging moral and ethical issues and teaching how to do that in our Universities, is precisely the cause of our cultural malaise. It is wrong always at all times not to make moral and ethical judgments. Without them we cannot survive in community.

So I am pleased you judged my post as you should. And, I am delighted you commented. Thanks. 

Dr.Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;we condemn those people who are ill to death.&#8221;</p>
<p>Excuse me? The last time I checked all humans die, and I haven&#8217;t condemned anyone to death so where do you come up the we? Are you judging?</p>
<p>I believe, however, you are asking if we should intervene when intervention is possible regardless of personal choice. </p>
<p>That is one of those pesky &#8220;is&#8221; &#8220;ought&#8221; questions that you so blithely glossed over in the post I mentioned. Paraphrased you said, &#8220;who are we to judge?&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not an ethicist and your question about organ transplants is an ethical question. I&#8217;m just a guy who tries to use his mind to the best of his ability. The AMA has committees upon committees who sit and AGREE upon those exact moral and ethical questions. Apparently they have decided that if I&#8217;m dying and choose not to donate my organs that is to be my choice no matter what. And, as you said, (paraphrased) &#8220;they don&#8217;t have the right to tell me what is moral for me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Moral issues are difficult, I will agree. But as I said their solutions are agreed upon in community and that comes about by making judgments. </p>
<p>Ethical questions, the one about organ transplants in your comment, are more difficult. They are more difficult because they are generally limited in scope than are moral questions. However, not judging either category  reduces us all to the lowest common denominator. </p>
<p>Not judging moral and ethical issues and teaching how to do that in our Universities, is precisely the cause of our cultural malaise. It is wrong always at all times not to make moral and ethical judgments. Without them we cannot survive in community.</p>
<p>So I am pleased you judged my post as you should. And, I am delighted you commented. Thanks. </p>
<p>Dr.Jim</p>
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		<title>By: SC&#38;A</title>
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		<dc:creator>SC&#38;A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You neglected to make note of a few other things I said- &quot;Morality is a moving target. You can’t just nail it once and call yourself moral. Some of the moral choices we are faced with are easy, some are more difficult. There are choices we face everyday and others we face once in a lifetime and everything in between.&quot;

Further, having babies is not like having puppies. Unless and until there is a support system in place that will help care for, raise and love that child, women will make decisions no one will be happy with. While you have an easy time excoriating me I don&#039;t see you addressing those issues.

Further, your morality is as suspect as mine. I wrote, &quot;There are people out there with terminal diseases or in dire need of organs. Despite the desperate situations and the pain and suffering some have to endure, we do not force anyone to donate their bone marrow or organs, even in the event of death. In not doing so, we condemn those people who are ill, to death. These individuals and unfortunates are innocent and defenseless. We do not mandate that like it or not, everyone must donate what may be lifesaving to another. Is that moral?&quot;

Your representations of my remarks are rather shallow.

My last remarks re abortion can be found here:

http://sigmundcarlandalfred.wordpress.com/2007/02/23/the-cost-of-the-abortion-debate/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You neglected to make note of a few other things I said- &#8220;Morality is a moving target. You can’t just nail it once and call yourself moral. Some of the moral choices we are faced with are easy, some are more difficult. There are choices we face everyday and others we face once in a lifetime and everything in between.&#8221;</p>
<p>Further, having babies is not like having puppies. Unless and until there is a support system in place that will help care for, raise and love that child, women will make decisions no one will be happy with. While you have an easy time excoriating me I don&#8217;t see you addressing those issues.</p>
<p>Further, your morality is as suspect as mine. I wrote, &#8220;There are people out there with terminal diseases or in dire need of organs. Despite the desperate situations and the pain and suffering some have to endure, we do not force anyone to donate their bone marrow or organs, even in the event of death. In not doing so, we condemn those people who are ill, to death. These individuals and unfortunates are innocent and defenseless. We do not mandate that like it or not, everyone must donate what may be lifesaving to another. Is that moral?&#8221;</p>
<p>Your representations of my remarks are rather shallow.</p>
<p>My last remarks re abortion can be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://sigmundcarlandalfred.wordpress.com/2007/02/23/the-cost-of-the-abortion-debate/" rel="nofollow">http://sigmundcarlandalfred.wordpress.com/2007/02/23/the-cost-of-the-abortion-debate/</a></p>
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